Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

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Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by scorpion » 00:32:52 Friday, 01 July, 2016

The following stats were worked on by Seren & myself, then reviewed again. The main goal of them being to more accurately represent colonies and colonial empires that were under represented in the original stats. Adding various bonus's to powers allow for game play to be expanded in a way that makes it worthwhile to hold onto/ and acquire colonies. These bonus's as always, are a target of opportunity for nations at war with one another. Adding more of them, and detracting from the magic money of 'Economy' is a way to broaden the possibilities within the game, and more accurately represent incomes & economies.

Below is a change log along with the stats. What is asked is that players look them over to gain the big picture of why these adjustments were made. We ask that you consider the time period, events thus far in-game, and historical predispositions while viewing them. Your constructive criticism & comments are welcome, as it is our aim to have all players agree that these changes will better suite the game, and it's quest for accuracy. None of these changes will be made, if players cannot agree on them. Myself and Seren are more than willing to discuss reasoning for any altered stats in order to facilitate the process. As GM, If Moo is satisfied, he will then confidently be able to implement them into the game.
Changelog:
Generally fixed math on credit income where errors occurred, Moo’s & Scorp’s spelling and grammar too fixed by Seren.
Broad intentions: make colonies worth having and fighting over for their bonuses, make most national incomes more vulnerable to disruption by making credit income more bonus-based rather than economy-based.
Updated the various major conflicts of Chinese Chaos and the Greco-Turkish Crisis to the involved nations.
Reduced British colonial upkeep by 40 (still easily the highest in the game) due to British Empire ‘responsible governments’ being represented consistently. Put in stats for these ‘responsible government’ nations in the British Empire. Added Australian Wool resource to Britain.
Added Algerian agriculture, Congolese tropical wood, Chadian cotton and Malagasy corvée to France’s bonuses, so that they gain some benefit from their imperialism.
Reduced German economy -30 in accordance with the data spreadsheet, but added colonial bonus resources (Togoland cacao and Tanzanian coffee) for the colonial empire. Added rent payments.
Added Danube tariff bonus to Austria-Hungary, corrected rent payments.
Corrected math on Republic of China income.
Added Trans-Siberian Railroad and Russian Grain bonuses to Russia. Fixed deficit malus, as it was inconsistent with the game rules
Italy: Added colonial bonus resource (Eritrean precious metals).
Fixed Sweden-Norway’s income to account for the rent paid by Germany and Austria-Hungary.
Added Aceh War to Netherlands conflicts.
Japan: Added colonial bonus resource(Taiwanese Sugar)
Reduced Japanese economy by 2, in accordance with the spreadsheet.
Lowered America’s Colonial upkeep by 10
Re-Raised British Empire upkeep by 10(To stay consistent with relative size of other colonial powers and upkeep, while acknowledging responsible governments.)


-United States of America-
President: William McKinley (Tellos)
Government: Federal Republic
Popularity: Medium
Military Units: 50/79 (47 reserves called up), -79; 11 units in Cuba (-11), 2 units in Puerto Rico (-2), 13 units in the Philippines (-13), 2 units in Shanghai (-2), 1 Unit in Samoa (-1)
Naval Units: 9/14, -75; 1 fleet in Samoa (-1), 2 fleet in Cuba (-2), 1 fleet in Puerto Rico (-1), 3 fleet in the Philippines (-3), 2 Fleets in China (-2) (10 units complete in early 1901)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 4 Nvy 4 (5 in early 1901) Art 3 MG 2 Sub 1 (2 in early 1900) Chem 1; Specific: None
Defenses: Western frontier forts, Endicott coastal defenses
Economy: +265 credits
Colonial Income: 5 (40 trade, -30 upkeep, -5 Chinese chaos)
Deficit: 500
Credit Income: 203 [+20 United Fruit Company, +30 Brazilian rubber, +25 New York Stock Exchange, +45 international trade, +40 allied trade, -25 deficit]
Conflicts: Small pockets of American Indian resistance, Illinois Coal Wars, Pacification of the Philippines, Cuban unrest, Anti-British Sentiment, Canadian Border Tension
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American Indians
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Resistance to white rule
Units: 0
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Katipunan
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Anti-Spanish Nationalism, Independence for the Philippines
Units: 0

-United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland-
Queen: Victoria
Prime Minister: Lord Salisbury (Serenissima)
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Popularity: High
Military Units: 7/58 (12 reserves called up, 5 South African reserves), -58; 10 in India (free), 10 in Egypt (free) 2 in Sudan (-2), 1 in Fashoda (-1), 5 units in Hong Kong (free), One unit in French Africa (-1), 5 Units in Shanghai (-7), 9 in Greece (-9), 18 units in South Africa (-18)
Naval Units: 47/65 (-325) , 1 in Fashoda (-1), 2 units in Hong Kong (-2) 15 fleets in Crete (-15)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 5 Art 4 MG 3 Sub 1 Chem 1;Specific: None
Defenses: Egyptian garrison forts, Indian garrison forts, South African blockhouses, Portsmouth fortifications, Hong Kong Fortifications
Economy: +170 credits
Colonial Income: 90 (+210 trade, -110 upkeep, -10 Chinese chaos)
Deficit: 1000
Credit Income: +93 [+20 Suez Canal, +20 Indian textiles, +15 Indian Agriculture, +20 Afghan opium, +10 South African diamonds, +10 Chinese opium, +10 Canadian lumber, +10 Australian wool, +20 Gold Coast metals, +25 London Stock Exchange, +85 international trade, +65 allied trade, -50 deficit]
Conflicts: Boer War, Greco-Turkish Crisis, Reconquest of Sudan
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Birsa Munda
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Tribalism, millennialism
Units: 0
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Mahdist Movement
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Islamic millennialism, Sudanese Independence
Units: 9
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Dervish State
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Islam, Somalian Independence
Units: 35


-French Third Republic-
President: Emile Loubet (Flamelord)
Government: Parliamentary Republic
Popularity: Somewhat High
Military Units: 46/76 (70 reserves), -76, 10 in West Africa (Free), 9 Units in Southern China (-9), 2 units in Peiking (-2), 4 units in Shanghai (-4), five units in Spanish Morocco (-5)
Naval Units: 13/28, -140, 10 units patrolling spain (-10), 5 units in Spanish Morocco (-5) (2 units complete in early 1900)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 4 Nvy 4 Art 4 MG 2 (3 in late 1901) Sub 1 (2 in late 1901) Chem 1;Specific: None
Defenses: Mougin turrets, Verdun forts
Economy: +150 credits
Colonial Income: 50 (130 trade, -80 upkeep, -10 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 1200
Credit Income: +79[+20 French West African gold, +10 Central African ivory, +10 Chinese opium, +10 Indochinese rubber, +10 Algerian agriculture, +10 Congolese tropical wood, +10 Chadian cotton, +10 Malagasy corvée, +40 international trade, +70 allied trade, -60 deficit]
Conflicts: Pacification of African Interior, Chinese Chaos, Greco-Turkish Crisis, Dreyfus Affair
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Rabih az-Zubayr
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Secessionism, Islamism
Units: 2

-German Empire-
Kaiser: Wilhelm II (Scorpion)
Government: Semi-constitutional monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat High
Military Units: 63/75 (135 reserves), -75, 2 unit in Tianjin (-2), 5 Units in German Cameroon (-5), 10 unit in Kiautschou Bay (-10), 3 units in Hainan (-3)
Naval Units: 22/31, (-155), (4 units complete in early 1900) 1 fleet in Tianjin (-1), 3 Fleet in Hainan (-3), 3 Fleets in Kiautschou Bay (-3), 2 fleet in German Cameroon (-1) , 3 fleets in Southern China (-3)
Tech: Inf 5 Cav 4 Nvy 3 (4 in late 1900) Art 4 (5 in late 1901) MG 2 ( 3 in early 1901) Sub 1 Chem 1 (2 in early 1900);Specific: None
Defenses: Metz Fort Line
Economy: +170 credits
Colonial Income: 10 (60 trade, -40 upkeep, -10 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 600
Credit Income: +64 [+10 Chinese silk, +15 South-West African diamonds, +45 German steel, +15 Cameroonian Rubber, +15 Togoland cacao, +15 Tanzanian coffee, +50 international trade, +30 allied trade, -30 deficit, -30 rent to Sweden-Norway]
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos

-Austro-Hungarian Empire-
Emperor: Francis Joseph I (tardis218)
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: High
Military Units: 40/46 (80 reserves), -46, 5 units in Shanghai (-5), 2 units in Luisha area (-2)
Naval Units: 5/5, -30
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 4 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 2 Sub 1 Chem 1;Specific: None
Defenses: Polish forts
Economy: +165 credits
Colonial Income: -5 (-5 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 750
Credit Income: +90 [+20 Danube River tariffs, +40 international trade, +20 allied trade, -37 deficit, -30 rent to Sweden-Norway]
Conflicts: Nationalist Unrest

-Russian Empire-
Tsar: Nicholas II (Coin)
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: Medium
Military Units: 83/123 (130 reserves, 30 reserves called up), -126; 40 units in Manchuria (-40), 27 units in Turkish Europe (-27), 14 units in Turkish Armenia (-14)
Naval Units: 21/22, -110; 1 unit in Port Arthur (free),
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 3 Art 3 (4 in early 1901) MG 1 ( 2 in early 1901) Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: Port Arthur naval base; Lobanov Line
Economy: +260 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 1200
Credit Income: +43 [+20 Trans-Siberian Railroad, +20 Russian grain exports, +20 Iranian textiles, +20 Manchurian coal, +20 Manchurian railway, +30 international trade, +30 allied trade, -60 deficit]
Conflicts: Restless soldiers, Occupation of Manchuria, Greco-Turkish Crisis
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Manchurian Self-Defense Groups
Sphere: Qing
Ideology: Manchurian Nationalism, Anti-Foreign Sentiment
Units: 4


-Qing Empire-
Emperor: Guangzhou Emperor
Empress Dowager: Cixi
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: Low
Military Units:30/30, (-34);
Naval Units: 4/4 -40
Tech: Inf 2 Cav 2 Nvy 1 Art 2 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +40 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 1605
Credit Income: -5 [+20 Manchurian coal to Russia, +10 Russian-controlled railways, +20 allied trade, -80 deficit]
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos, Anti-Foreign Sentiment
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Xingjiang
Sphere: Qing
Ideology: Warlord
Units: 10


-Republic of China- Beijing-
President: Sun Yat-Sen (Gesar)
Government: Fledgling Republic
Popularity: High
Military Units: 40/40 (-40) (13 reserves)
Naval Units: 0/0
Tech: Inf 2 (early 1901) Cav 2 Nvy 1 Art 2 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +135 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 0
Credit Income: +120 [+20 opium bonus going to Britain and France, -10 opium unexportable due to instability, +10 silk to Germany, +10 allied trade, +10 international trade, -15 Famine ]
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos, Anti-Foreign Sentiment, divided military loyalties
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Ma Clique
Sphere: Republic of China Beiyang
Ideology: Warlordism
Units:20
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Anhui Clique
Sphere: Republic of China Beiyang
Ideology: Warlordism
Units: 20
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Bandits
Sphere: Neutral (pro-Sun Yat-Sen)
Ideology: Banditry
Units: 21
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Peasant Self-Defense Organizations
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Protection
Units: 6


-Sublime Ottoman State-
Sultan: Abdul Hamid II (TRC)
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat Low
Military Units: 25/57 (20 reserves available, 19 reserves called up) -59, 10 unit in Tripoli (-10), 22 Units in Greece (-22)
Naval Units: 1/1, (-5)
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 2 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +120 credits
Colonial Income: 0 (10 trade, -10 upkeep)
Deficit: 1400
Credit Income: -16[+10 international trade, +20 allied trade, -70 deficit]
Conflicts: Ethnic Conflict, Greco-Turkish Crisis
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Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization
Sphere: Bulgarian
Ideology: Regional Autonomy, Unification with Bulgaria
Units: 5
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Supreme Macedonian-Adrianople Committee
Sphere: Bulgarian
Ideology: Regional Autonomy, Unification with Bulgaria
Units: 1
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Armenian fedayi
Sphere: Russian
Ideology: Armenian Self-Protection
Units:3


-Kingdom of Italy-
King: Umberto I (Langben)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Very Low
Military Units: 20/31 (20 reserves), -31, 5 unit in Crete (-5), 6 units in Greece (-6)
Naval Units: 8/13, -65, 2 units deployed in Crete (-2), 3 units deployed in Greece (-3)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 2 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 1 (Early 1901) Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +165 credits
Colonial Income: +20 (30 trade, -10 upkeep)
Deficit: 600
Credit Income: +108 [+10 Eritrean precious metals, +30 international trade, +25 allied trade, -30 deficit]
Conflicts: Far-left unrest, Nationalist War Fervour


-Empire of Japan-
Emperor: Mutsuhito (Cthulhuvong)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Very High
Military Units: 50/67 (40 reserves), -70, 9 units in Pieking (-9), 8 units in Shanghai (-8)
Naval Units: 1/6, -30, 5 blockading China (-5)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +123 credits
Colonial Income: -5 (-5 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 400
Credit Income: +63 [+10 Taiwanese Sugar,+40 international trade, +35 allied trade, -20 deficit]
Conflicts: Taiwanese Rebels, Chinese Chaos
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Taiwanese rebels
Sphere: Neutral (Chinese)
Ideology: Anti-Japanese resistance
Units: 0


-Principality of Bulgaria-
Knyaz Eudoxia (Aegis)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Moderate
Military Units: 10/30 (20 reserves), -30, 20 units in Ottoman territory (-20)
Naval Units: 2/2, -10
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +70 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 500
Credit Income: +30 [+20 international trade, +25 allied trade, -25 deficit]
Conflicts: Border Tension, Coethnics in Ottoman Territory, Pan-Slavic elements

-Kingdom of Serbia-
King: Aleksandar I ()
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Moderate
Military Units: 30/30 (20 reserves), -30
Naval Units: 0/0, -0
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +60 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 500
Credit Income: +50 [+20 international trade, +25 allied trade, -25 deficit]
Conflicts: None


-Kingdom of Belgium-
King: Leopold II
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Moderate
Military Units: 30/30, -30
Naval Units: 2/2 (10 reserve) -20
Economy: +65 credits
Colonial Income: 10 (20 trade, 10 upkeep)
Deficit: 300
Credit Income: +70 [+20 Congo Free State rubber, +10 Congo Free State ivory, +20 international trade, +20 allied trade, -15 deficit, -10 Congo mercenaries]
Conflicts: Congolese unrest
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Tetela Tribe
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Tribalism
Units: 2


-Kingdom of the Netherlands-
Queen: Wilhelmina
Prime Minister: Nicolaas Pierson
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat high
Military Units: 30/30 (30 reserves), -30; 1 in Dutch East Indies (free)
Naval Units: 4/4 -40
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 1 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: Water Lines, Stelling van Amsterdam (completed ???)
Economy: +70 credits
Colonial Income: 20 (30 trade, 10 upkeep)
Deficit: 600
Credit Income: +80 [+20 East Indies rubber, +10 East Indies tea, +30 international trade, +30 allied trade, -30 deficit]
Conflicts: Aceh War


-Kingdom of Greece-
King: George I
Prime Minister: Georgios Theotokis
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat low
Military Units: 4/4 (0 Reserves) -4
Naval Units: 2/2 -20
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +70 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 400
Credit Income: +46 (+20 international trade, +30 allied trade, -20 deficit, -40 Ottoman Occupation]
Conflicts: Greco-Turkish Crisis


-United Kingdom of Sweden and Norway-
King: Oscar II
Prime Minister of Sweden: Erik Gustaf Boström
Prime Minister of Norway: Francis Hagerup
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat low
Military Units: 40/40 (40 reserves) -40
Naval Units: 2/2 -20
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +90 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 400
Credit Income: +120 (+20 international trade, +30 allied trade, +30 rent from Germany, +30 rent from Austria, -20 deficit]
Conflicts: None


-South African Republic (Transvaal)-
President: Paul Kruger
Government: Limited Franchise Republic
Military Units: 19/19 (10 reserves) -19
Naval Units: 0
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0;Specific: None
Defenses: None
Economy: +40
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 400
Credit Income: +49 [+20 monopoly on gold mining, +10 international trade, +20 allied trade, -20 deficit]
Conflicts: Uitlander unrest, Boer War
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Boer guerrillas (Transvaal)
Sphere: Transvaal
Units: 1

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=Europe=

Kingdom of Denmark
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: Neutral (British)
Units: 30
Navy: 1
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None

Principality of Liechtenstein
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: French
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None

Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: French
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 5
Conflicts: None

Swiss Confederation
Government: Republic
Stability: 6
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 0 (20 Reserves)
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Principality of Andorra
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: French/Spanish
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Principality of Monaco
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: French
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None

Most Serene Republic of San Marino
Government: Republic
Stability: 6
Sphere: Italian
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Kingom of Romania
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 3
Sphere: Russian
Units: 30
Navy: 1
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None

Principality of Montenegro
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Russian, Balkan
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 3
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Spain
Government: Constitutional monarchy
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 14
Navy: 1
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Collapse of Spanish Empire, Carlist war
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Carlist
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Conservative Monarchism, devolution
Units: 7
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Sahrawi Uprising
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Anti-Colonialism
Units:4

Kingdom of Portugal
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 3
Sphere: British
Units: 20
Navy: 3
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None

=Africa=

Khedivate of Egypt
Government: British occupied, nominally Ottoman
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 4
Navy: 2
Economy: 2 (Suez Canal bonus going to Britain)
Conflicts: None

Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
Government: British/Egyptian administration
Stability: 0
Sphere: Anglo-Egyptian (British)
Units: 5
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Mahdist Rebels

Cape Colony
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: British
Units: 15 [Cape Colonial Forces]
Navy: 1
Economy: 3
Conflicts: Boer War


Natal
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 10 [Natal Volunteers]
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Boer War


Rhodesia (British South African Company)
Government: British Colonial Company
Stability: 3
Sphere: British
Units: 5 [Rhodesian Volunteer Forces], (15 reserves*)
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Boer War, tension with natives

[*Local paramilitaries and paramilitary BSAP, cannot serve overseas]


Orange Free State
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 2 (+10 diamond bonus)
Conflicts: Boer War
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Boer guerrillas (Orange Free State)
Sphere: Orange Free State
Units: 0
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Foreign Volunteer Units
Sphere: Boer
Units: 0

Kingdom of Morocco
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 2
Sphere: French
Units: 20
Navy: 2
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Republic of Liberia
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Empire of Ethiopia
Government: Empire
Stability: 3
Sphere: Neutral (British and Russian Support)
Units: 70
Navy: 0
Economy: (2)
Conflicts: Tensions over Scramble for Africa


=Middle East=

Arabia
Government: None (Various Tribes)
Stability: 0
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Persian Empire
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Russian
Units: 50
Navy: 0
Economy: 2 (+20 trade going to Russia)
Conflicts: None.

=Asia and Oceania=

Kingdom of Afghanistan
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 3
Sphere: British
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 1 (+20 opium going to Britain)
Conflicts: Tribal resistance

Indian Empire (British Raj)
Government: Imperialist presidency with local vassals
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 15 [Indian Army & Imperial Service Troops], (35 reserves*)
Navy: 4
Economy: 6
Conflicts: North-West Frontier

[*Princely States’ armies, cannot serve overseas]


Commonwealth of Australia
Government: Federal parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: British
Units: 20 [Citizens Military Force]
Navy: 3 [Commonwealth Naval Forces]
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Aboriginal unrest


New Zealand
Government: Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: British
Units: 10 [Permanent Force]
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Siam
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Yunnan
Government: Dictatorship
Stability: 2
Sphere: Republic of China- Beijing
Units:15
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos

Shanghai International City
Government: Shanghai Metropolitan Council
Stability: 2
Sphere: British
Units: 5
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Khanate of Mongolia
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 1
Units: 13
Navy: 0
Conflicts: Border Clashes with China

Greater Korean Empire
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral (Japanese)
Units: 40
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Peasant Rebellion
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Donghak Peasant Movement
Sphere: Japanese
Ideology: Social Reform in Korea
Units: 15

Ganden Phodrang of Tibet
Government: Theocracy
Stability: 2
Sphere: British
Units: 9
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos

Kingdom of Nepal
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Bhutan
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Hawaii
Government: Republic
Stability: 4
Sphere: American
Units: 5
Navy: 1
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Samoa
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 2
Sphere: American/British
Units: 5
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Colonial tensions

=The Americas=

Confederation of Canada
Government: Confederated parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: British
Units: 5 [Permanent Active Militia], (15 reserves*)
Navy: 1
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Alaska boundary dispute

[*Non-Permanent Active Militia, cannot serve overseas]


Newfoundland
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: British
Units: 0 (1 reserve)
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None


Republic of Haiti
Government: Republic
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Dominican Republic
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Guatemala
Government: Military dictatorship
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 20
Navy: 1
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

United States of Central America
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: Mexican
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Costa Rica
Government: Republic
Stability: 4
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Colombia
Government: Republic
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 40
Navy: 2
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Political Tension

United States of Venezuela
Government: Military dictatorship
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 35
Navy: 1
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Republic of Ecuador
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Peruvian Republic
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Indigenous unrest

Republic of Bolivia
Government: Republic
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Tensions with Brazil

Republic of Chile
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 30
Navy: 2
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Argentine-Chilean naval race, Atacama border dispute

Argentine Republic
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 40
Navy: 2
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Argentine-Chilean naval race

Republic of the United States of Brazil
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: American
Units: 50
Navy: 3
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Tension with Bolivia

Eastern Republic of Uruguay
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 1
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Colorado-Blanco Rivalry

Republic of Paraguay
Government: Military rule
Stability: 2
Sphere: Brazilian (American)
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None
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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by Huojin » 01:01:54 Friday, 01 July, 2016

So I used http://www.diffchecker.com to check through things. Here are my takeaways:
  • I generally disagree with the idea that all the Great Powers should have higher incomes right now. Mainly because most of them are involved in huge projects and schemes. If we took away the deployments and returned to game-start, their incomes would look like this:
    • USA - 246
    • UK - 157
    • France - 114
    • AH - 132
    • Russia - 124
    • Italy - 124
    • Japan - 85
    And they're all much higher than their game-start conditions. The balancing between them isn't even the same as game-start.
  • Germany's the only country that took a nerf, everywhere else the things that have been added seem to have been designed to offset things players have done.
  • I think I disagree with nerfing Germany anyway ("economically" accurate or not), because credits aren't a linear model, but an abstract measure of "ability to do things", and their ability to do things should be on par with the other Great Powers.
  • I'd argue against reducing US colonial upkeep costs, purely because they're new colonies and full of fighting and unrest right now.
  • I'd check a clarification from MoO before reducing UK colonial income - it should probably be around these levels normally, but balance-wise, considering things like the Boer War and chaos in China (which has included "non-China" parts like Shanghai and Hong Kong), it's possible a case could be made that the upkeep should be temporarily higher. Or keep it at the new level and tack more onto Chinese Chaos for nations with a bigger role in China, and things like that.
  • China needs it's railways-to-Russia bonus in its own stats.
  • You left my beloved Mexico out of the player stats ;___;
The NPC stats are all good tho.


EDIT: for the record, I think Germany's income would be 98. As low as it is now, and much lower than at game start.

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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by scorpion » 19:32:33 Friday, 01 July, 2016

Addressing Huojin's observations:

The main reason higher incomes have been sought out is due to the fact that within about 5 turns from now, chances are most players will likely run out of credits. Especially if there is any sort of large conflict. This is of course more true for smaller income nations, yet larger powers will be just as ham stringed. These however could be perhaps adjusted again to match the original game start, and its degree of variance.



As for Germany taking a nerf. Personally i agree, that it is too much of a nerf, and should not be the only one taking one of this size. As i have brought my Steel bonus up from +25 at game start along with other investments which should make the income much higher, even after it was re-done. Like you say, going by this my 'ability to do things' as a great power would be very little in the grand scope of the game. 98 for income would sound about right.

The decrease of US colonial costs should perhaps be reversed after what you pointed out. Increased again by 10 as to un-do the decrease.

As for the UK, i can see adding a bit more Chinese chaos to balance the colonial income.

Roger on the Chinese bonus.

Mexico was left out because i don't believe it needed anything changed, but i could be wrong.
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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by Huojin » 23:22:18 Friday, 01 July, 2016

Okay, so this is my attempt at an adjustment.

So my changes/proposals are largely rooted in what was one of the most successful long-running games our community has run in its long history - Patton’s Game II, 1936. The key factors as far as credits go are starting income (which is usually high) and turnly income (which is usually lower). This can be rebalanced as GMs prefer, but as we’re already 4 turns deep it’s a little late for that. In any case, I’m working with that kind of balance in mind.

My changes were also based heavily on looking at the game-start situation, and with people’s actions added on top of that, to try and give an idea on what things would be like if we’d started with different stats and still ended up here. The upshot of this is that some people might be surprised by their income levels, but they're all generally higher. The sole exception to this here (and I hope it won't be viewed as biased somehow) is America, which is here the only nation to really take a nerf because it needed it. However America is still comparatively strong compared to the other nations - I have attempted to place them around third or fourth in the hierarchy of Great Powers, rather than leading by a long way.

Another thing I've done (because I think scorp and Seren were onto something but didn't go far enough) is to split up peoples economies and colonial income a little to include a lot more bonuses. Hopefully this makes clearer the need for holding onto some colonies or sphere nations, and perhaps encourages a little conflict and tension. I'd add more, but I can't think of more to add if I'm honest. I'm happy to accept suggestions.

Also fair warning, this is will be the first time anyone else has seen these, so they've not been pre-checked by a second, fresher pair of eyes for "stupid shit". Happy to alter things based on this.

Oh, and I fixed a bunch of maths, spelling, and formatting errors that weren't caught last time.

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-United States of America-
President: William McKinely (Tellos)
Government: Federal Republic
Popularity: Medium
Military Units: 50/79 (47 reserves called up), -79; 11 units in Cuba (-11), 2 units in Puerto Rico (-2), 13 units in the Philippines (-13), 2 units in Shanghai (-2), 1 Unit in Samoa (-1)
Naval Units: 9/14, -75; 1 fleet in Samoa (-1), 2 fleets in Cuba (-2), 1 fleet in Puerto Rico (-1), 3 fleets in the Philippines (-3), 2 fleets in China (-2) (10 units complete in E1901)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 4 Nvy 4 (5 in E1901) Art 3 MG 2 Sub 1 (2 in E1900) Chem 1; Specific: None
Defences: Western frontier forts, Endicott coastal defences
Economy: +145 credits
Colonial Income: -25 (20 trade, -20 upkeep, -5 Chinese chaos, -20 colonial pacification)
Deficit: 500
Credit Income: +78 [+10 Costa Rican Bananas, +10 Colombian Bananas, +25 Brazilian Rubber, +20 New York Stock Exchange, +10 Alaskan Gold, +10 Cuban Sugar, +10 Filipino Tobacco, +10 Liberian Debt Servicing, +40 international trade, +30 allied trade, -25 deficit]
Conflicts: Small pockets of American Indian resistance, Illinois Coal Wars, Pacification of the Philippines, Anti-British Sentiment, US-Canadian Border Attacks
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American Indians
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Resistance to white rule
Units: 0
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Katipunan
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Filipino Nationalism
Units: 7
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Cuban Patriots
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Cuban Nationalism
Units: 5

-United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland-
Queen: Victoria
Prime Minister: Lord Salisbury (Serenissima)
Government: Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: High
Military Units: 7/58 (12 reserves called up, 5 South African reserves), -58; 10 units in India (free), 10 units in Egypt (free), 2 units in Sudan (-2), 1 unit in Fashoda (-1), 5 unit in Hong Kong (free), 1 unit in French Africa (-1), 5 units in Shanghai (-5), 9 units in Greece (-9), 18 units in South Africa (-18)
Naval Units: 47/65 (-325) , 1 fleet in Fashoda (-1), 2 fleets in Hong Kong (-2) 15 fleets in Crete (-15)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 5 Art 4 MG 3 Sub 1 Chem 1; Specific: None
Defences: Egyptian garrison forts, Indian garrison forts, South African blockhouses, Portsmouth fortifications, Hong Kong Fortifications
Economy: +165 credits
Colonial Income: 60 (+190 trade, -110 upkeep, -20 Chinese chaos)
Deficit: 1000
Credit Income: +123 [+20 Suez Canal, +5 Straits of Gibraltar, +10 Straits Settlements, +20 Indian Textiles, +15 Indian Agriculture, +10 Afghan Opium, +10 South African Diamonds, +10 Chinese Opium, +10 Canadian Lumber, +10 Gold Coast Metals, +25 London Stock Exchange, +10 Australian Wool, +10 West Indian Sugar, +10 Malayan Plantations, +5 Siamese Rice, +10 Chilean Nitrates, +10 Argentinian Livestock, +0 Kuwaiti Mercantilism (10 too unstable to export), +75 international trade, +75 allied trade, -50 deficit]
Conflicts: Boer War, Greco-Turkish Crisis, West African Tension, Reconquest of Sudan, Chinese Chaos, Kuwait Crisis, Mat Salleh Rebellion
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Birsa Munda
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Tribalism, millennialism
Units: 0
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Mahdist Movement
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Islamic millennialism, Sudanese Independence
Units: 9
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Dervish State
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Islam, Somalian Independence
Units: 35
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Mat Salleh's forces
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Anti-colonial
Units: 2

-French Republic-
President: Emile Loubet (Flamelord)
Government: Parliamentary Republic
Popularity: Somewhat High
Military Units: 43/76 (70 reserves), -76, 10 units in West Africa (free), 9 units in Southern China (-9), 2 units in Peking (-2), 4 units in Shanghai (-4), 5 units in Spanish Morocco (-5), 3 in Greece (-9)
Naval Units: 13/28, -140, 10 fleets patrolling Spain (-10), 5 fleets in Spanish Morocco (-5) (2 units complete in E1900)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 4 Nvy 4 Art 4 MG 2 (3 in L1901) Sub 1 (2 in L1901) Chem 1; Specific: None
Defences: Mougin turrets, Verdun forts
Economy: +150 credits
Colonial Income: 40 (130 trade, -80 upkeep, -10 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 1200
Credit Income: +91 [+20 French West African Gold, +10 Central African Ivory, +10 Chinese Opium, +10 Vietnamese Rubber, +5 Siamese Rice, +10 Algerian Agriculture, +10 Congolese Lumber, +10 Chadian Cotton, +10 Malagasy Corvée, +10 Ivorian Cacao, +40 international trade, +70 allied trade, -60 deficit]
Conflicts: Pacification of African Interior, Dreyfus Affair, Chinese Chaos, Greco-Turkish Crisis
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Rabih az-Zubayr
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Secessionism, Islamism
Units: 2

-German Empire-
Kaiser: Wilhelm II (scorpion)
Government: Federal Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat High
Military Units: 63/75 (135 reserves), -75, 2 unit in Tianjin (-2), 5 units in German Cameroon (-5), 10 units in Kiautschou Bay (-10), 3 units in Hainan (-3)
Naval Units: 22/31, (-155), (4 units complete in E1900) 1 fleet in Tianjin (-1), 3 fleet in Hainan (-3), 3 fleets in Kiautschou Bay (-3), 2 fleets in German Cameroon (-2) , 3 fleets in Southern China (-3)
Tech: Inf 5 Cav 4 Nvy 3 (4 in L1900) Art 4 (5 in L1901) MG 2 (3 in E1901) Sub 1 Chem 1 (2 in E1900); Specific: None
Defences: Metz Fort Line
Economy: +145 credits
Colonial Income: 10 (50 trade, -30 upkeep, -10 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 600
Credit Income: +101 [+10 Chinese Silk, +15 South-West African Diamonds, +40 German Steel, +10 Cameroonian Rubber, +10 Tanganyikan Coffee, +10 Togoland Cacao, +0 Turkish Railways (10 too unstable to export), +40 international trade, +30 allied trade, -30 deficit, -30 Rent to Sweden-Norway]
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos

-Austro-Hungarian Empire-
Emperor: Francis Joseph I (Tardis218)
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: High
Military Units: 40/46 (80 reserves), -46, 5 units in Shanghai (-5), 2 units in Luisha area (-2)
Naval Units: 5/5, -30
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 4 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 2 Sub 1 Chem 1; Specific: None
Defences: Polish forts
Economy: +140 credits
Colonial Income: -5 (-5 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 750
Credit Income: +85 [+20 Danube River Tariffs, +20 Bosnian Taxes, +40 international trade, +20 allied trade, -37 deficit, -30 Rent to Sweden-Norway]
Conflicts: Nationalist Unrest, Chinese Chaos

-Russian Empire-
Tsar: Nicholas II (Coin)
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: Medium
Military Units: 83/123 (130 reserves, 30 reserves called up), -123; 40 units in Manchuria (-40), 27 units in Turkish Europe (-27), 14 units in Turkish Armenia (-14)
Naval Units: 21/22, -110; 1 unit in Port Arthur (free)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 3 Art 3 (4 in E1901) MG 1 (2 in E1901) Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Defences: Port Arthur naval base; Lobanov Line
Economy: +215 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 1200
Credit Income: +58 [+20 Persian Textiles, +20 Manchurian Coal, +20 Manchurian Railways, +20 Ukrainian Grain, +20 Trans-Siberian Railway, +30 Manchurian Occupation +30 international trade, +30 allied trade, -60 deficit]
Conflicts: Restless soldiers, Occupation of Manchuria, Greco-Turkish Crisis
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Manchurian Self-Defence Groups
Sphere: Qing
Ideology: Manchurian Nationalism, Anti-Foreign Sentiment
Units: 4

-Kingdom of Italy-
King: Umberto I (Langben)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Very Low
Military Units: 20/31 (20 reserves), -31, 5 unit in Crete (-5), 6 units in Greece (-6)
Naval Units: 8/13, -65, 2 units deployed in Crete (-2), 3 units deployed in Greece (-3)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 2 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 1 (Early 1901) Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +135 credits
Colonial Income: +20 (30 trade, -10 upkeep)
Deficit: 600
Credit Income: +118 [+20 Italian Industry, +10 Eritrean Precious Metals, +40 international trade, +35 allied trade, -30 deficit]
Conflicts: Far-left unrest, Nationalist War Fervour

-Sublime Ottoman State-
Sultan: Abdul Hamid II (TRC)
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: Somewhat Low
Military Units: 25/57 (20 reserves available, 19 reserves called up) -57, 10 unit in Tripoli (-10), 22 Units in Greece (-22)
Naval Units: 1/1, (-5)
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 2 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +115 credits
Colonial Income: 0 (10 trade, -10 upkeep)
Deficit: 1400
Credit Income: +29 [+30 Turkish Straits, +10 international trade, +20 allied trade, -70 deficit]
Conflicts: Ethnic Conflict, Greco-Turkish Crisis
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Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organisation
Sphere: Bulgarian
Ideology: Regional Autonomy, Unification with Bulgaria
Units: 5
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Supreme Macedonian-Adrianople Committee
Sphere: Bulgarian
Ideology: Regional Autonomy, Unification with Bulgaria
Units: 1
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Armenian Fedayi
Sphere: Russian
Ideology: Armenian Self-Protection
Units:3

-Empire of Japan-
Emperor: Mutsuhito (Cthulhuvong)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Very High
Military Units: 50/67 (40 reserves), -67, 9 units in Peking (-9), 8 units in Shanghai (-8)
Naval Units: 1/6, -30, 5 blockading China (-5)
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 3 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +90 credits
Colonial Income: -5 (-5 Chinese Chaos)
Deficit: 400
Credit Income: +68 [+10 Formosan Sugar, +40 international trade, +35 allied trade, -20 deficit]
Conflicts: Taiwanese Rebels, Chinese Chaos
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Taiwanese rebels
Sphere: Neutral (Chinese)
Ideology: Anti-Japanese resistance
Units: 0

-Qing Empire- [+20 Manchurian Coal to Russia, +10 Manchurian Railways to Russia]
Emperor: Guangzhou Emperor
Empress Dowager: Cixi
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Popularity: Appalling
Military Units: 30/30 (0 reserves), -30
Naval Units: 4/4 -40
Tech: Inf 2 Cav 2 Nvy 1 Art 2 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +40 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 1690
Credit Income: -90 [+20 allied trade, -80 deficit]
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos, Anti-Foreign Sentiment
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Xinjiang
Sphere: Qing
Ideology: Warlord
Units: 10

-Republic of China- [+10 Chinese Opium to Britain, +10 Chinese Opium to France, +10 Chinese Silk to Germany, +10 Chinese Railways too unstable to export]
President: Sun Yat-Sen (Gesar)
Government: Provisional Republic
Popularity: High
Military Units: 40/40 (13 reserves), -40
Naval Units: 0/0
Tech: Inf 2 (E1901) Cav 2 Nvy 1 Art 2 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +135 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 0
Credit Income: +100 [+10 allied trade, +10 international trade, -15 Famines]
Conflicts: Anti-Foreign Sentiment, Divided Military Loyalties
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Ma Clique
Sphere: Republic of China Beiyang
Ideology: Warlordism
Units: 20
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Anhui clique
Sphere: Republic of China Beiyang
Ideology: Warlordism
Units: 20
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Bandits
Sphere: Neutral (pro-Sun Yat-Sen)
Ideology: Banditry
Units: 21
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Peasant Self-Defence Organisations
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Protection
Units: 6

-United Mexican States-
President: Porfirio Díaz (Huojin)
Government: Republic
popularity: Somewhat Low
Military Units: 25/30 units (30 reserves) -30, 5 units in El Salvador (-5)
Navy: 1/1 -5
Tech: Inf 4 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 3 MG 2 Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +95 credits
Deficit: 500
Credit Income: +100 [+35 international trade, +35 allied trade, -25 deficit]
Conflicts: Resistive Yaqui
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Yaqui rebels
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Resistance to Mexican rule
Units: 1

-Principality of Bulgaria-
Knyaz: Eudoxia (Aegis)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Popularity: Moderate
Military Units: 10/30 (20 reserves), -30, 20 units in Ottoman territory (-20)
Naval Units: 2/2, -10
Tech: Inf 3 Cav 3 Nvy 2 Art 3 MG 1 Sub 0 Chem 0; Specific: None
Economy: +70 credits
Colonial Income: 0
Deficit: 500
Credit Income: +30 [+20 international trade, +25 allied trade, -25 deficit]
Conflicts: Border Tension, Co-ethnics in Ottoman Territory, Pan-Slavic elements
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=Europe=

Kingdom of Denmark
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: Neutral (British)
Units: 30
Navy: 1
Economy: 3
Conflicts: None

Principality of Liechtenstein
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: French
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: French
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Swiss Confederation
Government: Republic
Stability: 6
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Principality of Andorra
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: French/Spanish
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Principality of Monaco
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: French
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Most Serene Republic of San Marino
Government: Republic
Stability: 6
Sphere: Italian
Units: 0
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Romania
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 3
Sphere: Russian
Units: 30
Navy: 1
Economy: 3
Conflicts: None

Principality of Montenegro
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Russian, Balkan
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Spain
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 14
Navy: 1
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Collapse of Spanish Empire
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Carlist
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Conservative Monarchism, devolution
Units: 7
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Sahrawi Uprising
Sphere: Netral
Ideology: Anti-Colonialism
Units:4

Kingdom of Portugal
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 3
Sphere: British
Units: 20
Navy: 3
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of the Netherlands
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 30
Navy: 4
Economy: 4 [+20 East Indies Rubber, +10 East Indies Spices]
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Belgium
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: French
Units: 30
Navy: 2
Economy: 4 [+20 Congolese Rubber, +10 Congolese Ivory]
Conflicts: Congolese Unrest
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Tetela Tribe
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Tribalism
Units: 2

Kingdom of Serbia
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Russian
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 3
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Greece
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 2
Sphere: British
Units: 4
Navy: 2
Economy: 3
Conflicts: Greco-Turkish Crisis, Tensions with Bulgaria

United Kingdom of Sweden and Norway
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 40
Navy: 2
Economy: 4
Conflicts: None
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=Africa=

Khedivate of Egypt [+20 Suez Canal going to Britain]
Government: British occupied, nominally Ottoman
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 4
Navy: 2
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
Government: British/Egyptian administration
Stability: 0
Sphere: Anglo-Egyptian (British)
Units: 5
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Mahdist Rebels

Rhodesia (BSAC)
Government: Colonial Company, British Puppet
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
units: 20
Navy:0
Economy:2
Conflicts: Boer War

Cape Colony
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: British
Units: 15 [Cape Colonial Forces]
Navy: 1
Economy: 3
Conflicts: Boer War

Natal
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 10 [Natal Volunteers]
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Boer War

Kingdom of Morocco
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 2
Sphere: French
Units: 20
Navy: 2
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Republic of Liberia [+10 Liberian Debt Servicing going to US]
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

South African Republic
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 19
Navy: 0
Economy: 3
Conflicts: Boer War
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Boer guerrillas (Transvaal)
Sphere: Transvaal
Ideology: Anti-British, Pro-Afrikaner
Units: 1

Orange Free State [+10 South African Diamonds going to no one]
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Tension with British
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Boer guerrillas (Orange Free State)
Sphere: Orange Free State
Ideology: Anti-British, Pro-Afrikaner
Units: 0
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Foreign Volunteer Units
Sphere: Boer
Ideology: Anti-British, Pro-Afrikaner
Units: 0

Empire of Ethiopia
Government: Empire
Stability: 3
Sphere: Neutral (British and Russian Support)
Units: 70
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Tensions over Scramble for Africa
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=Middle East=

Arabia
Government: None (Various Tribes)
Stability: 0
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Persian Empire [+20 Persian Textiles going to Russia]
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Russian
Units: 50
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None
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=Asia and Oceania=

Commonwealth of Australia [+10 wool going to Britain]
Government: Federal parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: British
Units: 20 [Citizens Military Force]
Navy: 3 [Commonwealth Naval Forces]
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Aboriginal unrest

New Zealand
Government: Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: British
Units: 10 [Permanent Force]
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Afghanistan [+10 Afghan Opium going to Britain]
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 3
Sphere: British
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Tribal resistance

Kingdom of Siam [+5 Siamese Rice going to Britain, +5 Siamese Rice going to France]
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Yunnan
Government: Dictatorship
Stability: 2
Sphere: Republic of China
Units: 15
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Border clashes with Qing

Shanghai International City
Government: Shanghai Metropolitan Council
Stability: 2
Sphere: British
Units: 5
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Khanate of Mongolia
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral (Russian)
Units: 13
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Border Clashes with China

Greater Korean Empire [+10 Korean Textiles going to no one]
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral (Japanese)
Units: 40
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Peasant Rebellion
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Donghak Peasant Movement
Sphere: Japanese
Ideology: Social Reform in Korea
Units: 15

Indian Empire (British Raj)
Government: Imperialist presidency with local vassals
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 15 [Indian Army & Imperial Service Troops], (35 reserves*)
Navy: 4
Economy: 6
Conflicts: North-West Frontier

Ganden Phodrang of Tibet
Government: Theocracy
Stability: 2
Sphere: British
Units: 9
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Chinese Chaos

Kingdom of Nepal
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: British
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Bhutan
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 4
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Hawaii
Government: Republic
Stability: 4
Sphere: American
Units: 5
Navy: 1
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Kingdom of Samoa
Government: Monarchy
Stability: 2
Sphere: American/British
Units: 5
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Colonial tensions
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=The Americas=

Confederation of Canada
Government: Confederated parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 6
Sphere: British
Units: 5 (15 reserves)
Navy: 1
Economy: 4
Conflicts: Alaska boundary dispute, Fenian Border Attacks

Newfoundland
Government: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Stability: 5
Sphere: British
Units: 0 (1 reserve)
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Republic of Haiti
Government: Republic
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Dominican Republic
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Guatemala
Government: Military dictatorship
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 20
Navy: 1
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

United States of Central America
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: Mexican
Units: 30
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Costa Rica [+10 Costa Rican Bananas going to USA]
Government: Republic
Stability: 4
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None

Republic of Colombia (Conservative) [+10 Colombian Bananas going to USA]
Government: Republic
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 20
Navy: 2
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Thousand Days War
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"Republic of Colombia" (Liberal)
Sphere: Neutral
Ideology: Liberalism
Units: 20

United States of Venezuela
Government: Military dictatorship
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 35
Navy: 1
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Republic of Ecuador
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: None

Peruvian Republic
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Indigenous unrest

Republic of Bolivia
Government: Republic
Stability: 1
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 10
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: Tensions with Brazil

Republic of Chile [+10 Chilean Nitrates going to Britain]
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 30
Navy: 2
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Argentine-Chilean naval race, Atacama border dispute, Andean border dispute

Argentine Republic [+10 Argentinian Livestock going to Britain]
Government: Republic
Stability: 3
Sphere: Neutral
Units: 40
Navy: 2
Economy: 3
Conflicts: Argentine-Chilean naval race, Atacama border dispute, Andean border dispute

Republic of the United States of Brazil [+35 Brazilian Rubber going to US]
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: American
Units: 50
Navy: 3
Economy: 3
Conflicts: Tension with Bolivia

Eastern Republic of Uruguay
Government: Republic
Stability: 2
Sphere: American
Units: 10
Navy: 1
Economy: 2
Conflicts: Colorado-Blanco Rivalry

Republic of Paraguay
Government: Military rule
Stability: 2
Sphere: Brazilian (American)
Units: 20
Navy: 0
Economy: 1
Conflicts: None
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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by Serenissima » 00:17:23 Saturday, 02 July, 2016

You forgot to include the updated RGs in your stats, Huo, but I guess that wasn't the point. Even if you added a tiny change to Australia, it's still grossly inaccurate. :P
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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by Huojin » 00:24:32 Saturday, 02 July, 2016

Added in your dominions. And I'm going to call them that, because every time you say "RGs" I'm pretty sure no one knows what you mean :P

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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by scorpion » 02:45:27 Saturday, 02 July, 2016

I won't have a chance to look over the stats in depth, until sunday. But I skimmed, and they seem alright. Will look in detail sunday night.
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Post by Serenissima » 04:51:39 Saturday, 02 July, 2016

Huojin wrote:Added in your dominions. And I'm going to call them that, because every time you say "RGs" I'm pretty sure no one knows what you mean :P
They don't become Dominions until later on :(
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Post by scorpion » 11:41:35 Saturday, 02 July, 2016

Just a quick adjustment to mine. Cameroon rubber and german steel should be at 15, and 45 respectively. I understand you tried to add another bonus with turkish railways, but it does not make sense to do so as i never approched trc on any railway projects. Maybe pick another colony instead to add a ten bonus too, instead of returning the +5s, either way works
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Post by Huojin » 13:03:51 Saturday, 02 July, 2016

scorpion wrote:Just a quick adjustment to mine. Cameroon rubber and german steel should be at 15, and 45 respectively. I understand you tried to add another bonus with turkish railways, but it does not make sense to do so as i never approched trc on any railway projects. Maybe pick another colony instead to add a ten bonus too, instead of returning the +5s, either way works
I changed the balance deliberately. I'm not 100% on bonuses like German Steel in the first place, but as long as they're there, I'll try and balance them. And Turkish Railways should stay because Germany had been investing in and building railways in the Ottoman Empire since pre-game. Just because you've not done more with TRC doesn't mean they don't exist, aren't owned by German companies, and aren't run by Germans.

Plus it gives people reasons to get involved in events, rather than taking a hands off approach.

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Post by Huojin » 18:47:00 Sunday, 03 July, 2016

Made some changes to my version:

- Split USA’s United Fruit bonus into two +10 Bananas bonuses - in Costa Rica and Colombia, because the company itself doesn’t seem as major a player yet, and it gives more geographic anchoring to the bonus.
- Reduced Brazilian Rubber bonus to +25 from +30, increased Liberian Debt Servicing to +10 as a result.


I'd change the balance of the German Steel bonus too, but scorp's been investing in it so it seems unfair to change it more. I've tried to conceive of the situation at game start and maintain the same or similar capacity increases that players themselves have cultivated. I'd change Ukrainian Grain and Italian Industry, and add more exterior things for Austria and Japan if I could think of any, but I'm drawing a blank.

Also some word from MoO on this would be helpful - I know some players are waiting to hear on how these things go before sending their turns (... or tendering bids for my amazing railway :P).

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Post by Serenissima » 20:02:55 Sunday, 03 July, 2016

Not sure why I'm on -20 for China when I'm one of the least involved parties. And some bonuses could use tweaking. But broadly, seems better - my main issue with the Responsible Governments not being included is fixed if they're included, so.
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Post by Master of Oblivion » 20:14:30 Sunday, 03 July, 2016

So it sounds like people are reaching a consensus, which is nice.
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Post by scorpion » 20:31:11 Sunday, 03 July, 2016

The anatolian railway is the only German involved railway I'm aware of before the baghdad one(if you're aware of others, let me know). Anatolia is presently untouched by the war, so shouldn't I at least be getting part of the bonus, rather than 0?
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Re: Re-adjusted 1898 stats up for review

Post by Huojin » 20:45:39 Sunday, 03 July, 2016

I was talking to someone else about that yesterday, it's a fair interpretation, scorp. Though it does reach as far as Constantinople, so it's arguable that there would be some degree of disruption, what with Constantinople being cut off from the rest of Europe by the battle lines. It depends, essentially, on whether you construe the bonus as being indicative of the value gained from running the railway, or the fact that it connects Germany with the heart of Anatolia. I favour the latter construction, but that's just me.

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