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Iranian Aggression

Post by Cephal » 08:13:30 Friday, 15 September, 2017

It has come to the attention of the United States that the Islamic Republic of Iran has been covertly attempting to damage UN forces operating in Lebanon. We believe that the possibility of sanctions, UN coordinated embargo, and the possibility of a total naval blockade of Iran be considered until they cease all activities undermining the United Nations forces in the Middle East. We also suggest a UN mandated No Fly Zone over UNFIL controlled areas.

We ask that other members of the UN come forward to discuss such possibilities.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Tellos » 08:34:20 Friday, 15 September, 2017

While Russia agrees this is a very bad situation if true it also wishes to state it's concern over growing UN and US forces in the region, the increased militarization of them iddle east seems to be sparking a wider array of conflcits.
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Post by Cephal » 08:36:02 Friday, 15 September, 2017

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While Russia agrees this is a very bad situation if true it also wishes to state it's concern over growing UN and US forces in the region, the increased militarization of them iddle east seems to be sparking a wider array of conflcits.
The United States by next quarter will have reduced their military presence in both Afghanistan and Iraq back to pre-surge levels. The only increase that remains is in our naval presence - which for the time is believed required to aid in the protection of our soldiers within the Middle East.
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Post by Tellos » 08:38:13 Friday, 15 September, 2017

An increase in air power would require an increase in bases used. The Russian Federation still refuses to send forces to the middle east on the grounds that we fail to see a clear exit strategy from the situation. We have been to afganstan before and we do not feel obligated to go there again.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Cephal » 08:48:01 Friday, 15 September, 2017

Any contribution to a no fly zone would be under UN command and would be contributed by member nations of the UN to UN command. It will not be a unilateral undertaking.

We are referring to a no-fly zone over UNFIL controlled zones in Lebanon.
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Post by Tellos » 08:56:58 Friday, 15 September, 2017

The point ofr us is the same, the Russian Federation beleives it will cause a bigger issue. While we will not block this is other members wish to help we will not place Russian planes in the air over the region.
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Post by Serenissima » 15:26:36 Friday, 15 September, 2017

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With the due respect, the Russian position on this issue seems to be somewhat inane. The United Nations is the legitimate peacekeeping and security force across the globe, and in Lebanon in particular under Resolution 1652 and all other previous resolutions on the topic. To have these peacekeeping forces - involved at the request of, in co-operation with, and for the assistance of the Lebanese government - to be under attack by forces funded and supplied by other members of the United Nations is a despicable and heinous act. Iran and Syria are both in flagrant and open violation of multiple fundamental principles and laws of the United Nations Charter, which, for reference, we shall quote the entirety of Article 2:
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.
  1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
  2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
  3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
  4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
  5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
  6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
  7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII.
For a nation such as Japan, which prides itself on its obedience and upholding to the principles and ideals of the United Nations, greater than the requirements of a United Nations member state and above and beyond the contribution proportionally required of us, these actions by the Iranian state, and to a lesser degree Syria, are highly offensive and antithetical to the proper behaviour of members of the United Nations. Japanese National Defence Force personnel, serving as peacekeepers, as well as members of the militaries of other nations, have been slain while carrying out their duty to peace and international security as Blue Helmets - slain by the forces of Hezbollah, and by Syrian and Iranian government agents supporting them.

As a result, we see the Russian stance on this issue as impossible to understand. That the Russians would blame the United Nations for 'sparking a wider array of conflicts' for carrying out its peacekeeping mission, and then facing the barely-veiled aggression of two member states who are clearly, as we speak, violating points 4 and 5 of Article 2 with relation to their attacks on Lebanon, betrays either a worrying lack of understanding of the situation or a wilful ignorance of the facts. Similarly, asking for an 'exit strategy' when members of the United Nations are carrying out these actions, and before any sanctions or punitive measures are even in place, would appear to be an admission of defeat and of allowing these nations to run roughshod over the principles and ideals of peace. If it were Russian soldiers who were undertaking the United Nations peacekeeping operations, and being killed, we do not think that they would view the situation so nonchalantly.

As a result, Japan urges the Security Council to vote in favour of sanctions and an embargo against the guilty parties, though at present we do not see how a No Fly Zone will affect the situation in Lebanon any more than existing measures undertaken under the UNIFIL umbrella. We hope that these non-violent and peaceful disciplinary measures will encourage a cessation of these hostile actions against Lebanon and the United Nations forces keeping the peace there. The era of illegal military actions, antithetical to peace, from all parties, will and must come to an end - whether it be invasions of Iraq or invasions of Chechnya, or the current events in Lebanon.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Flaming Bolshevik » 05:25:03 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

It's interesting how Japan speaks of peace and an end to illegal military actions. If we recall correctly it took 2 nuclear bombs to subdue your imperialist regime.

We're willing to negotiate cease-fire over private channels.
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Post by Cephal » 06:50:32 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

The point of the United States raising this matter is more the fact that covert aggression is being undertaken by Iran and any possible associated powers against Blue Helmet Peacekeepers sponsored and under the authority of the United Nations. The UNFIL in Lebanon is not belonging to a single country or a unilateral decision but rather is the effect of official United Nations decisions to authorize peacekeeping efforts.

Regardless of what issues Iran and Syria may have with the United States in it's activities in the region, it has no basis for the undermining of the United Nations Peacekeepers, unless they fully intend to reap the consequences in doing so.
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Post by Tellos » 09:13:50 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

If Japan wishes to compare Anti terrorist actiosn taken agaisnt radicals near Russian soil and in russian controled terroritory and consider it illeagle then are we to conclude both invasiosn by the United States are such too? You paint with a broad brush but don't understand the color your using. If you consider all anti terrorst actions to be unlawful then by that token we cannot cosndier aiding in any Un actiosn as we will not be able to be sure later they won't be called terrorism by somebody else. But invasion by the Islamic International Brigade was perfectly legal? We tohught Japan was better than this. But if the Japanese propose a idea that they alone hold the legal defintion of global policies then that is a sad state of affairs.


But fine if you don't want an exist strategy feel free to stay for a decade. However the Russian Federation will then call upon Japan to deploy addtional troops and equipment to stay for 30 years. Sicne you do not beleive in exist strategies you don't get to leave.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Red John » 09:30:19 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

Cephal wrote:
08:13:30 Friday, 15 September, 2017
It has come to the attention of the United States that the Islamic Republic of Iran has been covertly attempting to damage UN forces operating in Lebanon. We believe that the possibility of sanctions, UN coordinated embargo, and the possibility of a total naval blockade of Iran be considered until they cease all activities undermining the United Nations forces in the Middle East. We also suggest a UN mandated No Fly Zone over UNFIL controlled areas.

We ask that other members of the UN come forward to discuss such possibilities.
We ask that you provide proof, and, even if proof is provided of illicit activities, we would never support such a heavyhanded response and would gladly veto any motion that is so incredibly silly in it's wording.

If Iran has been engaging in such underhanded acts, then that is indeed worrying and a response should be made - but 'sanctions, UN coordinated embargo, and the possibility of a total naval blockade' is ridiculous and would lead to untold suffering within Iran, much like we saw in Iraq just a few years prior.

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Post by Serenissima » 13:12:17 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

A dossier is presented, though with sources protected, containing the intelligence and evidence gathered over the last few turns by UNIFIL forces and the Japanese Defense Intelligence Headquarters, including the Iranian bases in Syria and the satellite image of these being used to supply Hezbollah, the Iranian weapons used by Hezbollah, drones with their software and manufacture indicating they were under Iranian control, and the pointing out of the captured Iranian personnel by Italian UNIFIL forces. Some of this is already in public record in the World News turns.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Cephal » 13:21:47 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

We do not find it silly to propose harsh measures for a direct undermining of United Nations Peacekeepers. The Blue Helmets are a globally recognized force belonging to the UN. In their actions rigging up the fight in Lebanon against the UNFIL they are actively defying the United Nations intent to keep the peace in favor of escalating conflict in the country. This is a serious allegation, one that been proven by Japanese Intelligence.

Their willingness to directly undermine peacekeeping operations is why we feel that measures must be taken against Iran that are more on the excessive side. Although Syria is also complicit we believe keeping the consequences to Iran would make more of a useful point to those who would wish to directly undermine Blue Helmet forces anywhere in the world.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Serenissima » 13:58:19 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

Flaming Bolshevik wrote:
05:25:03 Saturday, 16 September, 2017
It's interesting how Japan speaks of peace and an end to illegal military actions. If we recall correctly it took 2 nuclear bombs to subdue your imperialist regime.
This period of which you refer represents a shameful and regrettable time in our country's past - and yes, it is, indeed, the past. We have learned from the mistakes of the past, and have established a democratic and pacifist constitution in order to prevent such things from occurring again. We, of all nations, know the consequences of being the aggressor, as you point out - and as such, we are entirely committed to the goal of ensuring that it can never happen again, in Japan, Asia, or anywhere in the world, through our obligations and responsibilities to the United Nations and its Charter.

In terms of the Russian commentary, we will clarify our remarks with you individually, as there has been a significant misunderstanding.
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Re: Iranian Aggression

Post by Red John » 14:15:14 Saturday, 16 September, 2017

Cephal wrote:
13:21:47 Saturday, 16 September, 2017
We do not find it silly to propose harsh measures for a direct undermining of United Nations Peacekeepers. The Blue Helmets are a globally recognized force belonging to the UN. In their actions rigging up the fight in Lebanon against the UNFIL they are actively defying the United Nations intent to keep the peace in favor of escalating conflict in the country. This is a serious allegation, one that been proven by Japanese Intelligence.

Their willingness to directly undermine peacekeeping operations is why we feel that measures must be taken against Iran that are more on the excessive side. Although Syria is also complicit we believe keeping the consequences to Iran would make more of a useful point to those who would wish to directly undermine Blue Helmet forces anywhere in the world.
It is silly as a first UN measure. Rampant escalation with no negotiation or indeed any formal warning, escalation which would affect literally tens of millions of people throughout the gulf, most negatively, is silly. China expresses disbelief that there has been no lessons learned from the fiasco that was Iraq, and the United States is pursuing yet more aggressive approaches to the middle-East.

We understand that a response must be made - again, you've adequately summed up the situation, but the response is too harsh when we have no reason to believe Iran would continue such actions in light of their discovered complicity and risk more reprisals. Were they to, however, we would reevaluate our stance on what measures are appropriate.

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