Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

For the creation of your Embassies/Foreign Ministries, the sealing of Treaties and general Diplomatic banter.
User avatar
Andre Massena
Hoxhaist
Hoxhaist
Posts: 35
Joined: 22:52:14 Sunday, 23 October, 2016

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Andre Massena » 02:34:28 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Why not Prince Otto of Bavaria? The regency period would be much shorter.
Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont
King Charles Felix of Savoy
1830 BOP

Denmark-Norway
King Frederick IV
1715 BOP

United Kingdom
Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin
1935 BOP

User avatar
Red John
Stalinist
Stalinist
Posts: 294
Joined: 04:21:08 Sunday, 31 July, 2016

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Red John » 08:15:04 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Of course the Ottoman Empire would desire an eight year old to take the throne; it leaves Greece incapable of reform and proper guidance for that much longer.

Again, Russia's concerns have not been addressed. We will not accept the imposition of Bavarian rule over Greece for close to a decade. As there seems to be the assumption that any Russian candidate is a vilified monster that would enslave the Greek people and lead a war of total conquest against the Ottoman Empire, Russia will thus argue that a German candidate - especially one so young - would also be upsetting to the balance of power, and is just as likely or even more likely to fail to comprehend the delicacies of diplomacy in the Balkans and will plunge the state into a state of instability.

Prince Otto is more preferable only in the sense that he will come of age much sooner and thus will avoid a long-term regency - but he is still would be a Lutheran in a land of Orthodox Christians

Cephal
The Commandant
Posts: 183
Joined: 22:26:56 Friday, 03 August, 2012

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Cephal » 08:28:50 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

We would have to correct the Russian government on two points:

First and foremost, Bavaria is an independent kingdom among the Germanies. As the Holy Roman Empire has long since been disbanded, Austrian and furthermore Hapsburg suzerainty no longer exists over their former subjects. As such, it would not be a break in the balance of power to provide a Bavarian royal to ascend to the throne of Greece.

It has also been noted by the Greek Government that any prospective ruler intending to take the Greek throne would have to convert to the Greek Orthdox religion prior to their approval and ascension to the throne. Which would mean the candidate would indeed be Orthodox upon their crowning.

In general we would have to say that the only issue worth addressing is the matter of an extended regency. Great Britain has no issue with such a regency taking place as it would mean that the new ruler could be groomed properly to ascend to their reign once the regency would conclude. The British Empire is certainly willing to provide a guarantee of security to The Kingdom of Greece in much the same way that various great powers have done for Switzerland until such an extended regency is concluded.

As such, Prince Luitpold of the House of Wittelsbach is still our preferred candidate.
France BoP 1968

User avatar
Master of Oblivion
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 781
Joined: 02:29:10 Tuesday, 07 August, 2012

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Master of Oblivion » 08:35:29 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Image

The Kingdom of France will also not support a Romanov on the throne of Greece. Such a move will upset the balance of power and undermine the efforts of the Greeks to achieve independence. We support Luitpold being placed upon the throne of Greece.
1990: Israel
Metal Gear: Iran
New Vegas: Salvador
Brazil: Proletarian Unification Party
1936: Empire of Japan
1971: China
Kaiserreich: CSA
You either die Fo'Dolo or see yourself live long enough to be the Patton.

User avatar
Luc
Pseudo Extra-Camullectual Intellinaire
Posts: 940
Joined: 10:37:42 Thursday, 11 August, 2016
Location: A meridie in regione Aequatoris

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Luc » 08:42:22 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Image
Georgios Glarakis, Foreign Secretary of Greece

To all the delegates present in this very conference,
We once again thank you all for your input, but now that we have word from the three original signatories of the London Protocol (Russia, Britain and France) we ought to begin a vote to officially decide the next king of Greece. As said previously, only the representatives of Russia, Britain and France are allowed the right to vote in this decision, however, the other delegations are still welcome to voice their opinions.
Image

GM of Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg Balance of Power, Join it Here > viewforum.php?f=360

Cephal
The Commandant
Posts: 183
Joined: 22:26:56 Friday, 03 August, 2012

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Cephal » 08:44:06 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

The British Government places our support behind Prince Luitpold of the House of Wittelsbach.
France BoP 1968

User avatar
Master of Oblivion
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 781
Joined: 02:29:10 Tuesday, 07 August, 2012

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Master of Oblivion » 08:44:59 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

The French government supports Prince Luitpold.
1990: Israel
Metal Gear: Iran
New Vegas: Salvador
Brazil: Proletarian Unification Party
1936: Empire of Japan
1971: China
Kaiserreich: CSA
You either die Fo'Dolo or see yourself live long enough to be the Patton.

User avatar
Smyg
GETTIN' REAL TIRED OF YOUR MACHIAVELLIAN BULLSHIT, GESAR
Posts: 3075
Joined: 23:01:40 Thursday, 02 August, 2012

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Smyg » 09:24:12 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

(Why Luitpoldt? I really don't understand it. I would've accepted Otto, but this... And Otto never converted, so that argument doesn't hold re: Luit doing so too.)

User avatar
Hussam_B
Anarcho-Communist
Anarcho-Communist
Posts: 57
Joined: 12:59:20 Sunday, 23 October, 2016

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Hussam_B » 09:27:22 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

A Spanish Delegation conveys his government's support of the Austrian recommendation of a non-Great-Power-House choice in Prince Luitpold of the House of Wittelsbach and approve of the French, British and Ottoman recommendations and urge the Russians to support it as well.
Image The Electorate of Bavaria - Balance of Power: 1800

User avatar
Red John
Stalinist
Stalinist
Posts: 294
Joined: 04:21:08 Sunday, 31 July, 2016

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Red John » 10:40:34 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Russia will not recognise Luitpold as a suitable candidate for the throne of Greece. As this appears to be a vote though, our objections matter not.

We are quite frankly disgusted by the willingness and eagerness of the great powers to willingly impose a decade of Bavarian regent rule upon the fledgling kingdom of Greece.

All signatories are monarchies; most of Europe are monarchies - we all know the potential dangers of a child regency and yet despite this, Great Britain and France push forward.

As such, we do not support nor recognise Luitpold as King of Greece - as far as we are concerned, he is but a Bavarian puppet and true power over Greek affairs will now be dominated by a minority cabal of Bavarians who will seek to impose their own cultural values over a foreign people.

Recognition will only be granted by the Russian Empire if Luitpold can prove himself to be a suitable ruler for the Kingdom - but it's rather hard to prove ones self when you're not going to rule for a decade, isn't it?

We do recognize an independent Greek state, though, that must be made clear.

(I don't understand Luitpoldt either. A Romanov candidate was pushing it, but any research on the issue will show you that the Bavarians were incredibly prejudiced against the Greek people and caused much discontent - although they did do some good in actually administrating the state. Otto was deposed - why wouldn't a younger, more impressionable candidate be deposed as well? This is silly.)

DutchGuy
Leftose Intolerant
Posts: 197
Joined: 22:26:55 Wednesday, 10 August, 2016

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by DutchGuy » 10:57:42 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Image
The Kingdom of Prussia supports neither a Romanov or a child to the vacant Greek throne, and urges the powers gathered here to agree on a candidate that is at least of age. There are plenty of similar candidates from smaller states in europe or inside the German Confederation.
The Republic of Turkey in scorpion's Metal Gear BoP 2006
The Kingdom of Hungary in Serenissima's 1936 BoP

User avatar
Luc
Pseudo Extra-Camullectual Intellinaire
Posts: 940
Joined: 10:37:42 Thursday, 11 August, 2016
Location: A meridie in regione Aequatoris

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Luc » 18:03:29 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Image
Georgios Glarakis, Foreign Secretary of Greece

To all the delegates present in this very conference,
Seeing the votes, the result is clear, Luitpold is to be king, as by the wishes of the Great Powers. We are powerless before the great powers, since the Greek state owes its independence to them, yet, we still protest the choice of Luitpold as king, whom we believe is too young to take charge, but if it is the wish of the majority of the great powers, we shall follow it and promptly crown him as our new king, without reservations.
Image

GM of Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg Balance of Power, Join it Here > viewforum.php?f=360

User avatar
Red John
Stalinist
Stalinist
Posts: 294
Joined: 04:21:08 Sunday, 31 July, 2016

Re: Ammendment of the London Protocol of 1829

Post by Red John » 18:24:33 Thursday, 03 November, 2016

Russia awaits the next crisis sparked in Greece due to misrule, then.

We congratulate the great powers involved.

Post Reply

Return to “International Diplomacy”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests