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US demanding explanation for Mexican involvement in boarder crisis.

Post by Tellos » 23:46:47 Sunday, 24 July, 2016

The United States government has recently acquired evidence of elements within the Mexican government funding Irish terrorists to attack Canadian civilians. This act is heinous and goes against all forms of respectful conduct by a country wanting to be deemed a major influence broker in the region.
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Post by Huojin » 13:21:44 Monday, 25 July, 2016

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The Mexican government has had no knowledge of this scheme, and refuses to acknowledge such a baseless accusation. If the United States government believes that elements within Mexico or elsewhere in Latin America have had ties or influence to any acts conducted illegally within US borders we would be open to cooperation to root out such elements, but we can see no way that Northamerican law enforcement officers could possibly have procured evidence of direct involvement of Mexican government officials - particularly as such evidence would doubtless have come from a violation of Mexican sovereignty by the covert carrying out of operations beyond your jurisdiction and within sovereign Mexican territory.

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Post by Tellos » 13:24:07 Monday, 25 July, 2016

If the Mexican government wishes to refute US intelligence efforts it may but as of right now given the situation Mexico should be placed on notice that any further actions against US interest will be deemed an act of war.
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Post by Huojin » 13:36:38 Monday, 25 July, 2016

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That Northamerica, a nation so beset by chaos of its own making, should seek to level threats and accusations at its steadfast neighbour... this speaks to the very depths of the malaise now lying upon Washington D.C. The USA should be careful it does not find itself friendless in the Americas. Threats of war against its neighbours on all sides all an ill way for a great nation to conduct itself.

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Post by Tellos » 13:39:51 Monday, 25 July, 2016

That Mexico thinks it can hurl insults at the US who has quelled the issues with Canada and not threatened war on them at all. Tells us that Mexico obviously thinks itself some master of the region and is willfully uniformed. We implore the Mexican government to end it's course of insanity and return to being a sane rational Neighbor.
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Post by scorpion » 14:25:13 Monday, 25 July, 2016

As a spectator of recent foreign policy conducted by the United States in Cuba and the Phillipines, Germany is skeptical of any 'evidence' against Mexico that the US could provide. As a nation with economic investments in Mexico, we fear for stability in the region, and ask that the US consider it's sources of such evidence.

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Post by Tellos » 14:35:31 Monday, 25 July, 2016

If germany wants to question US intelligence sources fine but do not expect us to be bullied by the Kaiser from Berlin into tolerating further actions against our interests.
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Post by Coin » 14:45:17 Monday, 25 July, 2016

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If Russia might be given the chance to intercede here, it strikes the Imperial government that calm and well-mannered diplomacy would be an exceptional necessity here. We therefore urge restraint in word and deed from all parties.

It is a statement of fact, from the common world news, that there is something deeply troubling going on in the North American continent. In the past six months:
  • - Investigating the American Indian raids, the Texan government unveils proof of Hispanic American involvement in the intensification of the raids, rapidly sentencing a number of "conspirators" to prison. This prompts violence against members of the Hispanic community.
    - American and Canada begin to stop each other’s ships for inspections. Tensions remain on an all-time high.
    - Adding to these tensions is the fact that a group of Irishmen is caught sneaking over the US-Canadian border. They quickly confess that their terrorist cell is receiving funding to engage in these actions, but they are unsure of who is doing so.
If the United States of America has found evidence that Mexico was behind any of these actions, then we would urge them to make clear the source of this newest piece of information, which until now was not published. If Mexico was indeed seeking to provoke a war between Britain and the USA, we condemn it wholeheartedly - for such an action would equal the cynicism and falsehood endemic in the Turkish effort to trigger a Russo-Austrian war. Regardless, the passion of the moment cannot allow the triggering of a North American war.

Whoever has been funding the so-called "Fenian" terrorists, or indeed, who is behind the support given to Red Indian savages, must be discovered. It is easily understood why the USA, seeing such actions, would feel under attack - but we would urge them not to play into the hands of this unconfirmed provocation by speaking too rashly to all parties.

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Post by Tellos » 15:01:56 Monday, 25 July, 2016

To our friends in Russia we have stated more than once the source is US intelligence agents. Germany has slapped those away as has mexico.
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Post by scorpion » 16:06:28 Monday, 25 July, 2016

Germany is not bullying the United States, merely we are pointing out our high skepticism in the matter given recent history. Your domestic intelligence Bureau is less than five years old, forgive us and other countries for not having zealot faith in their findings. We agree with Russia that the events in America are worrisome and perpetrators need to be brought to justice. However, the right perpetrators being brought forth is what is important here.

I'm sure many countries would agree American rhetoric over the past year has been fiery, threatening, and reckless in regards to proper diplomatic talk. Mixed with American actions in the Phillipines and Cuba, along with the hurried naval expansion it is hard to shake the view that America desires war, and new territory to annex. Shaky domestic intelligence would seem to be the perfect scapegoat.

In regards to this, we ask the United States to share the new pieces of evidence that cause it to have firm beleif in its implications of Mexico in order to disprove German theories of American intentions.
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Post by Tellos » 16:36:21 Monday, 25 July, 2016

If Germany is going to belittle US intelligence efforts we are doubtful germany is interested in the truth. We have asked Mexico for an explaination they replied with insults and diplomatic threats.
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Post by scorpion » 17:36:46 Monday, 25 July, 2016

Germany has cause to question domestic American intelligence efforts. Especially when the US would rather change the subject instead of presenting claimed evidence. It is home grown chaos that grips the United States, most likely a result of reckless foreign policy abroad. So yes, the effectiveness of your intelligence agency will be called into question. A hispanic-American has been implicated in treason against the US, no foreign national with evidence pointing to Mexico has been presented. And until the United States is able to do so, Germany will stand by the Mexican goverment on the matter.
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Post by Huojin » 17:40:40 Monday, 25 July, 2016

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On the contrary, we have been nothing but generous and friendly to the Northamerican government, despite its acts in America and throughout the world with which we sincerely disagree. It is we who have been repaid with nothing save accusations and threats of war. In light of US actions which our colleagues in Germany have noted already, there are a great many in intellectual circles here who now fear that this is merely a prelude to another American land grab direct at Mexico. Let us have no repeats of deceits of 1845-6, sirs.

If the American government is willing to conduct a joint investigation, or allow our law enforcement officers access to information, we would very much like to examine evidence further in order for these tensions to be resolved and the investigation to continue.

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Post by Coin » 17:41:32 Monday, 25 July, 2016

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We respect US wishes to defend the integrity of her intelligence agents, though would caution once more against rhetoric that might read too much into German caution. It is understandable - given the fact that either Mexico, or the USA, is in the wrong here - that for Germany, caution might be a wise policy. We would however caution Germany not to take US rhetoric on the matter as necessarily indicative of Mexican innocence, until an international investigation of some kind may be made.

If the USA is able to, more information on the nature of the new information, and a way to validate it, would seem to Russia prudent and sensible, in the context of lessening tensions over Canada, and ensuring that world powers are able to comment on this matter with certainty. The problem appears to be the lack of validation - in the sense of it's appearing in world media - and a general lack of trust in North American relations. It is presently as easy for Mexico to say in public that she is innocent, as for the USA to say she is guilty.

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Post by scorpion » 18:05:39 Monday, 25 July, 2016

Germany agrees that the recomended investigative measures put forth by the Mexicans, and the Russians should be taken in order to dissolve this matter.
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